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  • immi2006
    10-23 09:13 PM
    What is ur PD ? and ur 140 dates ?

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  • BharatPremi
    09-20 06:04 PM
    LOA...means I am still employed without benefits ...at my old company.
    what you said makes sense..this is how I am looking at it

    -join new company
    -donot send in ac 21 paperwork
    -if i have rfe send in paperwork from present employer which will only be a generic letter----(i don't know how much detail uscis likes)
    -the reason i want to do LOA is that this way i will be sure they will not revoke i -140
    -what do the gurus feel ?

    BTW--gave u green --thanks for the reply

    In my opinion if you choose to use EAD, I think you will be very much fine with this route but with H1 transfer it will be tricky. You may have to go through 2 H1 transfer to come up clean legally. First H1 transfer to new employer and second H1 transfer to old employer again As you did not work for old employer for one yerar and hence no pay stubs and hence technically H1 dies there and so if old employer is willing "to hire again after one year" your old employer should file new h1 transfer and then you can come clean.

    And during all this juggling make 2 things sure.

    - You do not get promotion
    - You do not get more than reasonable (10-20%) increment in the salary (The slary which was mentioned in your labor application)

    Again before juggling consult the lawyer first.

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  • addsf345
    06-30 02:15 PM
    Even though Freedom_fighter's intentions are right, the intelligence is too low. Did he/she suddenly wake up and think 'WOW, I HAVE AN IDEA THAT WILL CHANGE THE WORLD. 600 million legal immigrants have not thought of this but I did?????".

    The judge will dismiss such a case at the start by saying "please produce the culprit who put a gun to your head and told you to come to this country".

    still something is wrong. USA does not descriminate based on country of birth, in this case there is a punishment for being born in india.

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  • mrsahaayam
    03-15 09:58 PM
    Thank you La_guy and others....

    Do they ask me regarding this at the POE? In what forms do I have to fill the info? I am not sure, as one of you suggested, if they ask we will tell them. But does this record appear in their computer screen and if we did not mention to them, will it be treated as another crime?

    God please help me , It's THE WORST thing ever I did and been trhu a painful experience

    Thank you guys........


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  • yabadaba
    07-21 02:41 PM
    can we at least get the facts please before the naysayers votes us down?

    I had a question.

    It says u need a police certificate for the application:

    do u request it before or after the application has been submitted?


    do u need one from every place u have lived in since u were 18?

    does it apply for ur spouse?

    how can i get a certificate from india and dxb

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  • snehaledu
    04-16 12:26 PM
    And the point of this entire thread is?????
    Start investing money in India.
    r u IV Policeman? Can I see your badge?


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  • indiandude
    10-19 03:55 PM

    Is it possible to apply for both PIO and Indian visa simultaneously. My problem is that my son born in US has to go to India in 60days. If I apply for PIO and if it will not come in 4 weeks is it possible to apply for Indian visa and then go to India on Indian visa ?

    Thanks !

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  • getgreensoon1
    04-20 12:04 PM
    My advice to most people who do not perfectly fit into eb2 is to do the eb3 petition first (which is guaranteed to be approved). Get your place in line for the greencard.

    Good suggestion.

    If it is taking too long then you can try an eb2 later; if it gets approved then you will get the old priority date. If it doesn't; well you can say you tried but you didn't lost your place in line for the greencard because you still have the old eb3 in place.

    As if the porting rules are going to stay the same. There are many things legit eb2 people are doing that will make this bogus porting impossible.

    However, if your cases is not clear for eb2 and you try this first and it gets denied then you will lose valuable time in line for the greencard because you have to start from the beginning.

    Since, last august DOL has become weird with even approving eb3 labors. Generally, attornies will put language in the eta 9089 that they will accept three years of experience for each year of bachelors degree missing (this is in line with education evaluators and uscis).

    These days USCIS is trying to stick to the rules, so all people who are trying to beat the system by using wrong credentials are getting stuck. Lawyers have nothing to lose, they will make more money from you.....one from your eb3 application and two from your high risk eb2 application which will eventually be rejected.

    However, this isn't the same criteria DOL uses. They will state that if a person doesn't have a degree then you are willing to accept 12 years of experience which is excessive and they deny the labor (before they were giving hard time to eb2 but not it is eb3 that they are after). So now we have an issue that DOL criteria is different then uscis critera. You use dol criteria, labor gets approved but 140 gets denied. Use uscis criteria and labor gets denied.

    Now, everyone has to adjust and file eb3 labors as skilled workers and only require two years of experience (it's getting more and more messy)

    I did not know unskilled workers can file for greencards in EB3. I think things are getting better and USCIS is now trying to stick to the rules.


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  • ras
    12-16 10:51 PM
    Yes you said it right. See if IV can come up with some provision to encourage those who have expressed to shell out only few dollars. It doesn't look good critisizing those who have expressed their geniune feelings.

    The question here is not asking the Poster to donate more but rather tell him the provisions to contribute less as well.
    No two individuals are at the same thinking level. so his thoughts are that he can contribute less frequently if allowed. So let him know how he can do that. There may be many in the same boat like him.

    For the sake of generating more funds, let IV act like collection agency and look at the member as a customer/defaulter(those fence sitters). Collection Agencies make all sorts of efforts and provisions to collect money from these people. Finally they end up some how getting the money paid. There could be a payment installments based on the capability, lesser or higher amount, reminders etc. I am not sure if this anology is good for IV or not. The ultimate goal is to generate funds with the willingness from the members...

    You gave perfect examples here. Let's take a close look.

    If you think the atterney fee worth $10, you wouln't hire an atterney asking for $6k. Samething with the restraunt check. Samething with IV contribution. If you think $100 is too high, you don't pay it. But if you think it worth $10 you simply ask for it, like everybody will do. Imagine a car saleman responds to his potential buyer's request to a lower price of a car with insulting remarks, he'll loose this customer and many more.

    And IV ALLOWED everyone ...? You went too far, pal.

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  • Openarms
    06-02 05:40 PM
    We got heavy weights here supporting this bill... Kennedy and Schumer.. IV fights for all immigration issues, but not for this... then whom IV fighting for???


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  • hopein07
    02-19 04:43 PM
    Cash Surrender Value
    The sum of money an insurance company will pay to the policyholder or annuity holder in the event his or her policy is voluntarily terminated before its maturity or the insured event occurs. This cash value is the savings component of most permanent life insurance policies, particularly whole life insurance policies. Also known as "cash value", "surrender value" and "policyholder's equity".

    Cash surrender value applies to the savings element of whole life insurance policies that are payable before death. However, during the early years of a whole life insurance policy, the savings portion brings very little return compared to the premiums paid.

    You are correct when you look at early years only. But for the longer term whole life is better. Yes for short term Whole life can be very bad.
    Read the pros and cons on the NY State website at the end.


    Predictable, in most cases premiums are fixed for the life of the insured.
    The beneficiaries receive the death benefit no matter when the insured dies, as long as premiums were paid.
    The policy may build up cash value, which grows tax deferred.
    If you surrender the policy at a later date, the cash value, if any, will be returned to you.
    If you stop making premium payments you can receive the cash value or use that cash value to provide a paid up insurance benefit. The company must provide either extended term insurance coverage or reduced paid paid-up coverage. While it is not required that both options be offered many companies do make both available.


    A more complex product than term life insurance.
    Higher premiums than term life insurance.
    Could be costly if coverage lapses early. (You don't want to cancel early and if you are not sure then never take Whole Life. If you are planning for long term only then take Whole life)

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  • sanju
    04-15 10:40 PM
    This is all time low for "Highly Skilled" "Highly talented" "High INCOME" group. For the issue that affects our life the most, we are asking IV core if we could still drop to $10/month or $1/month, realizing well that we are up against well oiled and very well funded machinery of anti-immigrants. WOW!!! Is there a competition going on as to how low this community can go?

    This issue affects our personal life, family life, professional life, careers, professional life of our spouses, development of our growing children and still we cannot even come up with $20/month. After reading this, not sure whether at this time I am filled with more shame or is it more anger that is bothering me. Anyways, either of the two are lowest energy levels in human behavior.

    The amount of money we contribute is the measure of importance of this issue for us. Is this issue worth $20 or $10 or $1 for us? I guess the answer is NONE. This issue drives our life and we cannot come up with the necessary resources. Shame. We are expecting Amitab and Shahrukh to raise money for us when we do not want to help ourselves. Don't know if we all should cry or laugh at our behavior.


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  • Winner
    04-02 04:49 PM
    Dude, i dunno about this...

    But this guy was correct for the last month about the retrogression about EB3-ROW....


    Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I just think it�s a waste of time 'predicting'

    Anyways, don't you think we should behave a little better in public forums? (I'm referring to the language in your post)

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  • gsc999
    09-22 01:06 PM
    >>>>-sending more flowers
    please.. enough of flowers..

    >>>>-a huge rally in Silicon Valley
    Now you have seen what goes and does not go into a rally. This is a complicated task so it has to be planned, as was the DC one.

    >>>-candlelight vigil at congress
    This will work if high school students do it. not "highly skilled" immigrants.

    >>>>-mass letter mailings from all of us
    Yeah.. spam them with emails..

    >>>-human chains
    This involves same complexity as the rally. so its not an easy task.

    >>>-hunger strike?
    This will be stupidity. ( I am not calling you stupid, but the idea. so no need to jump on me). Eat your food and live healty and happy. Is GC worth going on hunger strikes and suicide attempts? Thats too much of desperation. You are not from Afghanistan or Kenya right..?

    What else?
    Oh yeah.. the "drain stoppers" stuff.. thats again stupid. Thats too much literal comparison to brain drain.
    Ok, now that you have negated all ideas from other people, we anxiously wait for your ideas :)

    I am sure you are not just some reactive person who can only criticize but can also provide us with a solution.
    Lets hear em.


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  • gcseeker2002
    12-19 01:45 PM
    You will also see "Approval notice sent". It means the card is on the way to your mailbox.

    I feel for all of you whose EAD is not yet receive. When my EAD was pending for more than 90 days, I wrote an email to the Ombudsman. I don't know if it helped or not. I just got RFE notice 4 days after sending the email. After replying to the RFE (photos), I got my EAD with no problems.
    When does the "Approval notice sent" status appear, it is about 7 days since I got the production ordered.

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  • gcseeker2002
    12-12 10:40 AM
    The following are various ways to express some one�s dissatisfaction/agony and draw some one else (Government/Media/Public) attention.

    1. Daily Fasting : One or more people would sit for fasting from 6 AM to 6 PM. One group would pass on the fire to next group.
    2. Continuous Fasting : One or more people would sit for fasting 24 hours a day. Such people should not have health issues like Blood Pressure, Gastric Trouble, Sugar, insulin deficiency, Heart relates issues. This may cuase arrest.
    3. Protesting : Conduct a rally with group/mass of people with immigration ply cards and banners.
    4. Wearing Black Ribbons : People would wear/put a small black ribbon on their shirt pockets (Upper left side of the chest) and attend duties. We can draw people attentions. Such ribbon should have white color immigration slogan printed on it.
    5. Distributing Flyers : Distributing Flyers/Handouts to people in respective areas.
    6. Banners : Display banner/show outs in the Traffic Island Medians
    7. Flower Campaign : Sending Flowers to respective people, also called Gandhi giri.
    8. Silent Sitting : Sitting in front of USCIS silently (no talk).
    9. Silent sitting in front of Senators house: Group of people should sit (kind of protest) in front of respective state senators. We can draw maximum MEDIA attention.
    10. Sweeping Roads : A group of people would sweep roads by wearing immigration slogans jackets.
    11. Organize Blood Donate Drives : Interested member would donate blood (We should explain to media, why we are doing so).
    12. Rally in All Major Cities : Conduct a rally in all Major cities (where we have at least 100 members) at the same time.

    We still have various other ways to express our dissatisfaction, however, they are little rude and could cause more issues.

    We should choose couple of ways from above to express our dissatisfaction. Members, feel free to add and delete from above list.

    P.S: We need prior permission from local authorities

    Looks like we have to some thing big at this Christmas season.
    I am sure most of us here (especially from India) were pampered and did not even clean their own study desks or rooms of their house when they were young, now they are ready to sweep the roads of a foreign country to get the foreign government attention to get their gc :)
    Humans, listen, life is not 1000 years, it is very short, dont waste the best part of your life waiting for gc.


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  • p_aluri
    11-14 02:33 AM
    You are on H1-B starting your approval today(i.e OCT 2007 in your case)

    if you leave USA, you have to get it stamped on your H1-B.

    So you may need to have paystubs.

    If you enter on H4,your H1-B will be abandoned and you no longer can work on H1-B.

    Again, I am not a lawyer, please talk to any attorney for further clarifications.

    I am on H4 for past 2yrs. My H1 is valid since Oct07. I want to travel to India in Dec this yr. I have few questions:

    1. I haven't started to work. So, what is my status as of now, after my H1 being aproved and valid since Oct1 2007?

    2. My H4 is valid till Mar 2008. If I want to travel to India in Nov end and come back in Dec, do I need stamping on my H1 from the consulate.
    If YES then:
    Do I need to show any pay-stubs?
    I NO then:
    a. At the port of entry what status is I am supposed to declare?

    b. If I enter as an H4 then does that invalidate my H1 visa?

    Plz help!!

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  • Madhuri
    08-01 01:49 PM
    Exactly! You can not expect them to do equally well in Indian school system as what they are performing in US. The school system focus is completely different and there is no easy way out for kids/parents to adapt to it. I am not criticizing either school systems. Both of them have pros and cons. And all this discussion holds true when you have option to move to Canada. If you don't, then it's better to pack before the kids grow older.If you have kids then its easy to move to India before the Kid goes to 2nd or 3rd grade ie before they are 8 or 9 yrs old. After that there is no way you can take a kid out of school in US and expect them to be competitive in India.
    This is based on US public school system standards (if you are homeschooling its different). I had friends when I was in India who had lived all their lives in Middle Eastern countries and even though they had studied in Indian system they felt it difficult to compete there.

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  • desi3933
    06-19 10:22 AM
    Nice information. Could you tell me what precautions I have to take now while filing my 485 if if I have intended to use AC21.

    Nothing. Just intent to work for sponsoring employer permanently. This intent can, however, change after 180 days of filing I-485 (if it is still pending). Important: This intent should not change until 180 days.

    Like what documents I need that time?
    New Employment Verification Letter from new current (or future) employer and letter to USCIS notifying that you are invoking AC-21.

    Do I need 140 copy that time too?
    Not Needed, but nice to have.

    Again thank you very much for your response.
    You are welcome. Good Luck.

    See above in Blue.

    Please verify details with your lawyer/attorney. This is NOT a legal advice.
    Permanent Resident since May 2002

    01-14 03:31 PM
    I ran these through my program but it is returning NULL.
    I guess each object needs to have a voting property or Lobby class attached to it. Without that you will only get Null values in return.

    Very good!

    08-13 06:54 PM
    Fact Sheet: Who's Looking Out for You?

    Green Card Visa Numbers Situation
    • The GC process involves Labor Certification (2-3 months) + I-140 (0-12 Months) + Wait for priority dates to become current (several years) + security checks (1 month to 2 years) + I-485 processing once priority dates become current (18 months to 3 years).
    • Yearly green cards quota for employment based applicants is 140,000. This includes visas for spouses and children. So on an average; it is given to ~ 60,000 families.
    • Country visas limit is 7%, with almost equal distribution for EB-1, EB-2 and EB-3 plus any unused visas from other countries. Generally speaking, for countries like India, approximately 7000 visas (~3000 families) were being issued every year in each of these categories.
    • It is estimated that approximately 500K+ (yes 500K) I-485 applications under skilled worker category were filed between July 2nd and August 17th 2007. Most of these applications were from people of India and China.
    • If you were unmarried at the time of filing, you will need to continue on current status (e.g. H-1B) otherwise you cannot bring your spouse.
    • Employment Based Immigration reforms do not find enough support on the senate floors (Failure of SKIL, STEM etc Bills). As a matter of fact, it does not even get enough support to make it debatable, let alone final voting on the bills.
    • USCIS is a self-funded organization i.e. it is run on fees it receives and is short on resources.

    What do these jargons mean?
    • Priority dates (PD) will remain retrogressed for several years.
    • Those who could not file their I-485 now will now have to waitttttt…..
    • Due to resource constraints, security checks may take years.
    • Once PD becomes current, it takes on an average 1 year to 3 years to get approval.
    • Endless cycle of EAD renewals and Advance paroles.
    • If working on EAD and for any reason, if any of your EAD gets rejected, you will need to stop working, In other words, need to leave your job.
    • You need to be in the same position with same job responsibilities for an indefinite time period otherwise you Green Card application will be rejected.
    • EADs are valid for one year and several employers (and rightly so) view it as a temporary permit and hence reluctant to hire you.
    • Once PD becomes current, it takes on an average 1 year to 3 years to get approval.
    • So virtually you have three options: a) Struggle for several years b) Leave the USA c) Join us.